Part 1: Life, Cognition, and Embodiment
In this episode, Marco and Caroline formulate their responses to the Buddhist Geeks podcast episode “Secularizing Buddhist Ethics” with Vincent Horn and Stephen Batchelor. Caroline explains how her understanding of the ways consciousness materially evolves in complex systems—via Douglas Hofstadter of Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid and Maturana/Varela’s Santiago School Theory of Cognition—intersects profoundly with her understanding of Buddhism. Caroline has been practicing and studying Buddhism since having a discrete transcendental experience in 2010. In this lively “inter-view,” Marco and Caroline explore the notion of treating any and every body as though they are you; the problematic aspects of the “you are not your body” teaching in Eastern mystic tradition; and the potential for realizing “heaven on Earth” through particular actionable frameworks of relating to one another.
Caroline Savery is a writer, producer and organizational designer/strategist based in Denver, Colorado. She is a cofounder of Cosmos.coop, a platform co-op serving visionary creatives. She has worked in the field of cooperative and nonprofit development since 2011, supporting organizations such as Nourish Community Market, USA Cooperative Youth Council, Denver Permaculture Guild, Bikes Together, and the Colorado Co-ops Study Circle. Prior to that she was the producer-director for The Sust Enable Project, a visionary “meta-mentary” about evolving definitions of sustainability. She devotedly practices observation, experimentation and design in all aspects of her life–mainly via wilderness, permaculture and Buddhism.
Here is the original Buddhist Geeks episode Caroline and Marco are responding to:
Caroline also references her film project, The Sust-Enable Meta-mentary (2014).
Episode music by Chris Zabriskie. (CC) BY 4.0. http://www.chriszabriskie.com.